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Post by salfordslim on Oct 14, 2020 17:51:38 GMT
Hola! from the sunny island of Fuerteventura to everyone back home in wet, cold Salford.😏🏖️ Not much to add to what's already been said tbh... I nearly choked on my rather large G&T when Graham made those subs on Saturday and if the decision hadn't already been made then I think that probably was the final nail in the coffin. Let's hope the players rally round and put on a show while we await the new gaffer. Forgive me if I'm a little distracted for the Port Vale game on Saturday tho.... I'll be sat in a bar watching the mighty Red Devils at Wembley before rushing to the airport to catch my flight home! Nice and sunny today though you’re not wrong with the cold bit. No need to rub it in with the nice weather in the Canaries mind 😀 Sorry ChipBarm (or should that be "lo siento, patas fritas panecillo"?😁) I promise to behave now.👍 Gotta go anyway as just about to watch the sun set over the Atlantic from my beachside bar in the quaint seaside village of El Cotillo. The sangria *hic* is calling....
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Post by westonsupermanc on Oct 17, 2020 18:31:57 GMT
As I have said on Facebook ridiculous decision and timing. If they wanted him out then a replacement should have been installed next day giving him time with the squad. Graham's tactics may have cost us 2 points but the owners decision has cost us 3 points. Had Ashley put the last minute chance away would this still of happened. Roy is not the answer there are lots of good managers out there. Owen Coyle Alan Curbishley and Ian Holloway to name a few.Today the get rid of Graham brigade got what they deserved. Good luck Graham top bloke
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Post by chipbarm on Oct 17, 2020 19:50:32 GMT
As I have said on Facebook ridiculous decision and timing. If they wanted him out then a replacement should have been installed next day giving him time with the squad. Graham's tactics may have cost us 2 points but the owners decision has cost us 3 points. Had Ashley put the last minute chance away would this still of happened. Roy is not the answer there are lots of good managers out there. Owen Coyle Alan Curbishley and Ian Holloway to name a few.Today the get rid of Graham brigade got what they deserved. Good luck Graham top bloke All ifs and buts but if Alexander hadn’t made those bizarre subs and tactical changes and approached the 2nd half as he did the first I don’t think Tranmere would have had a sniff and he’d still be in post. We will never know of course but yes a bit of an odd decision. Agree re Keane I don’t think it would end well with him in charge. I can’t see either Coyle or Curbishley being in the owners thoughts, Coyle in particular I don’t rate one bit. Holloway is on a good thing at Grimsby and I think has a stake in the club, regardless of the fact I don’t think our owners would be interested in him. As I said up thread, I reckon they may try for Richie Wellens. Surely Keane would have been appointed by now if he was coming.
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Post by tangerinedream on Oct 19, 2020 22:42:20 GMT
As chipbarm says in his above post, would GA have been out of a job now if we'd beaten Tranmere? I suspect not although it does seem somewhat difficult to believe that his fate was decided and sealed in the last fifteen minutes of the game but if it had then that might well have accounted for the fact that a replacement wasn't waiting in the wings to step right into his shoes without delay. However frustrating and annoying the Tranmere result was I don't think GA's head was already on the block and awaiting the slightest reason for the axe to fall. Whatever ones thoughts about the guy I think he did a very decent job for us albeit with some curious decisions, but it does make one wonder that tactics apart how many of those regarding the acquisition and moving on of personnel were entirely down to him alone? Ultimately he carried the can and paid the price in not too dissimilar circumstances to his previous managerial tenure at Scun*thorpe United. I'd like to thank GA for all his efforts over the last two and a bit seasons and wish him and his assistant Chris Lucketti all the best for the future.
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Post by alanb on Oct 20, 2020 11:50:38 GMT
As chipbarm says in his above post, would GA have been out of a job now if we'd beaten Tranmere? I suspect not although it does seem somewhat difficult to believe that his fate was decided and sealed in the last fifteen minutes of the game but if it had then that might well have accounted for the fact that a replacement wasn't waiting in the wings to step right into his shoes without delay. However frustrating and annoying the Tranmere result was I don't think GA's head was already on the block and awaiting the slightest reason for the axe to fall. Whatever ones thoughts about the guy I think he did a very decent job for us albeit with some curious decisions, but it does make one wonder that tactics apart how many of those regarding the acquisition and moving on of personnel were entirely down to him alone? Ultimately he carried the can and paid the price in not too dissimilar circumstances to his previous managerial tenure at Scun*thorpe United. I'd like to thank GA for all his efforts over the last two and a bit seasons and wish him and his assistant Chris Lucketti all the best for the future. Remember how Gary Neville stormed out of the ground when we were losing 4-0 to Kidderminster. And... had our heroic players not pulled off that remarkable turnaround in the last fifteen minutes of the game ... do you not think that Bernard and Jonno's tenure could also have come to a similar sudden and abrupt end? I get the impression that Gary Neville (and Casper?) is only interested in constant success. And failure - even in just the one particular game, if in Gary Neville's mind the failure in that game is totally inexcusable - will not be tolerated. So, yes, I think it is possible that poor GA's fate was finally decided in the heat of those last mad minutes of the Tranmere game. It appears that the pressure to succeed at Salford is intense ... and that to survive the course the new manager is gonna have to be a particularly tough b'stard.
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Post by salfordteacher on Oct 20, 2020 14:37:55 GMT
As chipbarm says in his above post, would GA have been out of a job now if we'd beaten Tranmere? I suspect not although it does seem somewhat difficult to believe that his fate was decided and sealed in the last fifteen minutes of the game but if it had then that might well have accounted for the fact that a replacement wasn't waiting in the wings to step right into his shoes without delay. However frustrating and annoying the Tranmere result was I don't think GA's head was already on the block and awaiting the slightest reason for the axe to fall. Whatever ones thoughts about the guy I think he did a very decent job for us albeit with some curious decisions, but it does make one wonder that tactics apart how many of those regarding the acquisition and moving on of personnel were entirely down to him alone? Ultimately he carried the can and paid the price in not too dissimilar circumstances to his previous managerial tenure at Scun*thorpe United. I'd like to thank GA for all his efforts over the last two and a bit seasons and wish him and his assistant Chris Lucketti all the best for the future. Remember how Gary Neville stormed out of the ground when we were losing 4-0 to Kidderminster. And... had our heroic players not pulled off that remarkable turnaround in the last fifteen minutes of the game ... do you not think that Bernard and Jonno's tenure could also have come to a similar sudden and abrupt end? I get the impression that Gary Neville (and Casper?) is only interested in constant success. And failure - even in just the one particular game, if in Gary Neville's mind the failure in that game is totally inexcusable - will not be tolerated. So, yes, I think it is possible that poor GA's fate was finally decided in the heat of those last mad minutes of the Tranmere game. It appears that the pressure to succeed at Salford is intense ... and that to survive the course the new manager is gonna have to be a particularly tough b'stard. I think Gary has to be careful with his drive for success. It is by no means a bad thing in itself, but that amount of pressure could result in a negative culture and ethos within the club, and I think the poor home form could be a symptom of those expectations. I personally think the dismissal of GA was a little hasty; though I understand as I have shared similar frustration. I'm just wary that the culture of the club (instilled by the hierarchy) is also a factor, not just the manager on a tactical standpoint. This is all speculation ofcourse, just my opinion.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Oct 20, 2020 16:29:33 GMT
I don’t think GA was sacked on the back of 45 minutes of a football match. He always looked to defend a lead rather than closing a game out. His teams and subs at times were bizarre. It was coming.....and the strange game that led to his sacking just confirmed it in the owners minds.
He had success with us and the danger is that the next manager doesn’t. Where do they go then? I think there is an option to get someone better in, but they can only be judged on results.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Oct 24, 2020 11:02:26 GMT
Sky bet have suspended betting on Warren Joyce only. Either he has the job or someone has placed a huge bet on him.
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Post by christoph on Oct 30, 2020 21:35:05 GMT
Sam Allardyce now 2nd favourite on SkyBet, not sure how his style of play would be received at Moor Lane or whether he still has the fire in his belly to succeed at this level. Richie Wellens knows this division well after winning it last season with Swindon. He is well known to Cof92 and still lives in Worsley. Think I will have a small punt. Nope. Next please.
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Post by christoph on Oct 30, 2020 21:36:06 GMT
Not giving up yet, took 20/1,
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