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Post by salfordiandude on Feb 13, 2016 17:20:32 GMT
Well............. absolutely shell shocked! Twice we had a 2 goal lead and we threw it away. First half we seemed to control the first 35 minutes, then obviously Darlo put the pressure on as expected for the last 10 of the half. Second half we went completely to pot.
Defensively we were shocking, we stood off from their wingers allowing them to get inside the box, why not tackle them outside just in case you make a foul??
Attacking, well we just don't have the killer instinct to score. Our forwards seemed to need 5-6 really good chances to convert a goal!
Darlo are the best team this season to come to Moor Lane, with their never say die attitude. Fair play to them and I think they will win the league this year!
Fortunately results have gone our way in terms of the play-off spots, but to be honest at the moment we won't win in the playoffs when we can't kill games off. Another season at this level will do us good, and build an even stronger team for next season. Still a long way to go in the season but collectively as a team we need to book our ideas up if we want to secure a playoff spot.
Today will be soon forgotten about and lets focus on the next game, but I can't bring myself to be positive after the team threw 3 points away.
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Post by mozzer on Feb 13, 2016 18:17:58 GMT
To be fair, Dude, I think your post is well balances and about as positive as I think one can be after that debacle. It's certainly more positive than I am willing to be.
I have a few issues with some refereeing decisions, the 'tactics' of their players, and a few of their fans, but to be honest, that's for another post, maybe. I think we need to put those type of issues aside here and take a good, long look at our own team, something that J&B needed to do a few weeks ago.
Our second half tactics seemed clueless at times, just sitting back and letting them back into the game. Once again we lost our discipline, even if we weren't the only team doing so. Ultimately, it means our top-quality 'keeper missing at least one game for a silly retaliation. As for going forward, well, we are too wasteful in front of goal. I know we've scored three against a good team, but once again we've missed chances to put the game to bed at 2-0 and 3-1. Once again, Josh Hine is the culprit. He misses far too many, despite his good statistical record, and especially too many one-on-ones. At 3-1 he was through on the keeper - AGAIN - and missed a glorious chance that would've seen the game off, attempting a pitiful, flaccid lob. If it seems as though I'm singling him out, well, so what? We've paid good money for him, he receives a wage, and spectators are charged to watch him, thus validating any criticism for things such as missing a plethora of chances each game. He's particularly irked me today for two other reasons: 1) going down holding his face in the first half. He wasn't touched. I think he merely hit the ball too far over the defender to latch on to it, so was trying it on. I lambasted Stourbridge's 'keeper on here for similar antics. Our players should not be exempt from the same criticism; 2) booting a cone in frustration on his way off the pitch. One one hand, it 'shows he cares' as some might say, but really he needs to put more effort into scoring his chances than kicking an inanimate object after his misses have cost us.
To be fair, he took his header well in the first half, perhaps when he had less thinking time. Also, he's not the only one to have a disappointing afternoon (putting it mildly). We can do nothing else but move on. My issue is that we're not learning or improving from recent poor displays / capitulations. As for play-offs or whatever, I maintain that a solid top eight finish still represents a good first season at this level. It might be best for this side not to go up this season, as they certainly don't appear ready for the next level based on recent evidence, not that I think they'd win a play-off game on current form.
Only time will tell how cathartic this rant will be for me. None the less, I'll still be on the coach to Ilkeston for my sins.
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Post by tangerinedream on Feb 13, 2016 18:34:07 GMT
I too am in a state of shock and total disbelief after we somehow managed to fashion a defeat after what appeared to be a nailed on victory. Credit to Darlo but by heck we gave them an almighty helping hand with some totally uncharacteristically poor defending. I'll not blame the referee for the defeat but he certainly gave them a helping hand with their second goal when there was a clear foul in the middle of the pitch before the ball was played wide and he wasn't nearly strong enough to deal with their usual gamesmanship and antics of surrounding the referee and questioning every decision against them.
Having said that we shot ourselves in the foot by failing to convert nailed on chances with Josh Hine being the chief culprit with two glaring misses at crucial times. If we'd gone in at half-time 3-0 up it would have been game over and instead of going 4-1 up they then go up the other end of the pitch and make it 3-2. Having been booked earlier - which I didn't know about at the time - Jay Lynch then stupidly reacts to a challenge which sees the original offender then theatrically roll about following a needless push in the face. As I said we were the architects of our own downfall and I feel absolutely sick to the core. Not so much that we lost - although that would be bad enough - but in the manner that we did and the fact that we've missed a huge opportunity to really stamp our authority on the league table. It's a real pity we don't have a game in midweek to get today's result out of our system. I think I'm going to drink myself into oblivion tonight.
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Post by broughton12 on Feb 13, 2016 18:46:08 GMT
Im gonna sleep on it before i put my post up but to say im gutted is an understatement.
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Post by mancity1 on Feb 13, 2016 21:22:44 GMT
Firstly the referee,did we loose because of him.Not in the memory of Man.We lost because we can't convert the chances we create,or certainly not enough.I think in the last twenty minutes Darlo bullied us,I will not call the defence because for most of season,they have been outstanding.You win as a team and you loose as a team.I will say that I enjoyed the match and the occasion.I now also think Darlo will win this league,I would not want to go there in the play offs. Do I think Darlington are a better team than ourselves,no I don't,but I do think they do what they have to very well.Like I have said for most of the second half they bullied us.Back to the Ref you could say,he did Jay a favour,because in my opinion he could have given him a straight red.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Feb 13, 2016 22:43:50 GMT
Credit to Darlo. It took a two goal deficit for them to wake up, but when they did.....bloody hell. It doesn't matter that we were guilty of sitting back after the two goals. Darlo could only play what's in front of them and they did that very well.
Most of my thoughts have been echoed above by others. I don't care what the stats say about Josh Hine. Darlo (and many other clubs at Moor Lane this season) get a chance and score. Our strikers.....all of them.....need 5 or 6 chances to score a goal.
Webber can be brilliant on his day, but he can't spend 90 minutes afraid to go in for a challenge. He charges in, and then stands off. And can someone please take him to one side and remind him that he couldn't take a corner if his life depended on it. If it's not intercepted by the first defender, it's hit far too long. Is a dead ball kick SO hard?
Ritchie Allen....is he still injured? Didn't see him on the pitch today.
JJ....one of the few to come away with any credit today. Didn't always do the right thing, but created space and tracked back. Never stopped running.
What can say about our defence. From being one of the best defences in the league, we've gone to playing like,the keystone cops. Are they being trained to keep backing-off attackers, or do they just do it anyway? Attack after attack, then let Darlo stroll into out penalty area. The fourth goal, I think it was, was a simple one, as the attacker had about five minutes to decide what to do with it.
The truth is, we have a number of players who didn't want the win as much as the eleven players on the Darlo team did. This is a talented squad of players, and week after week, they have failed to live up to their billing. Yes, it can happen....its football, but it's now becoming a habit.
At this level, you can't get away with needing 5 or 6 chances for every goal. You have to take your chances when they come. Darlo should have been three down.....and if they were, their heads may have dropped.
Poor, poor performance from us, but Darlo were awesome. To come back from two down twice.....I take a bow.
Off the pitch, there's a suggestion that Salford fans sprayed beer on some of the lady Darlo fans and that Jonno verbally abused a lady? Hope this is just bollox, but not great if true.
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Post by Salford6 on Feb 13, 2016 23:22:35 GMT
Don't want to comment on the game, everyone else has pretty much summed it up, hope the off the pitch incidents aren't true, spraying beer on away fans is never something I'd ever expect to hear about at Moor Lane. There's some talented sides in this league, going to have to buck our ideas up sharpish, roll on Saturday.
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Post by ftmh on Feb 13, 2016 23:38:02 GMT
100% correct that beer was thrown over Darlo fans
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Post by garethl on Feb 13, 2016 23:58:01 GMT
I am really surprised at the negativity towards the team in this thread. One defeat doesnt make them bad players. People on here are normally glass half full!!. I certainly wouldnt question the desire of players. As people have said here Darlo took their opportunities and got on a roll. Good Luck to them. As to incidents I know what I heard and saw going round the ground. Over the 90mins I thought the atmosphere was good and its time to draw a line under all this stupid bickering etc. I did hear our managers being subjected to some abuse - being called pedos which is not what I would call banter and tbh the idiots should have been arrested and thrown out. But this was only 2-3 ppl. And we are not whiter than white as against Stourbridge I moved away from Salford fans whose language was vile towards the officials oppo players and fans and it was in front of children. I hope next week the threads and outlook on here are positive ? and looking forward to enjoying our footy.
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Post by garethl on Feb 13, 2016 23:59:26 GMT
As to the beer its not the same idiot that threw a drink at a Notts County player was it?
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Feb 14, 2016 6:58:49 GMT
Gareth....one defeat doesn't make them bad players, but 3 defeats and a draw in their last 4 games, gives us every right to question their ability and commitment. Darlo are a very good team, but our defence has been easily breached by teams we should be beating. Ramsbottom apart, we haven't looked convincing for some time.
In fact, we can question our home form from the start of the season. Not good enough to be in with a shout.
We can question why strikers with big reputations need so many chances to score goals.
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Post by salfordiandude on Feb 14, 2016 7:24:55 GMT
Is there any point to this forum? People don't like it when we have a little moan at the team/club/players.... its a bit like the old forum.
Do people honestly think yesterdays result was all fine and rosey. We had 2x2 goal leads and we threw it away... collectively as a team to lose a match being in that position is unacceptable.
Ive said my bit as im honest enough to do so. I praise the team/players when we do well, and if I think we've been poor I will say so.
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Post by tangerinedream on Feb 14, 2016 8:27:34 GMT
Is there any point to this forum? People don't like it when we have a little moan at the team/club/players.... its a bit like the old forum. Do people honestly think yesterdays result was all fine and rosey. We had 2x2 goal leads and we threw it away... collectively as a team to lose a match being in that position is unacceptable. Ive said my bit as im honest enough to do so. I praise the team/players when we do well, and if I think we've been poor I will say so. Spot on! There's nothing in your above post that I disagree with 'dude. Like it or lump it everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Post by salfordbwfc on Feb 14, 2016 8:28:32 GMT
Off the pitch, there's a suggestion that Salford fans sprayed beer on some of the lady Darlo fans and that Jonno verbally abused a lady? Hope this is just bollox, but not great if true. There is a difference between sprayed and spilled as Salford's 2nd goal goes in! As for Jonno, he was responding to the "lady's" other half who had been abusing him (along with the "lady") as soon as they got back into it. Jonno responded by offering him outside after the match. The abuse continued which resulted in the police who had travelled down from Darlo removing the guy for the last few minutes (presume for the guys own safety with Jonno on the hunt) Always two sides and two views to every story
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Post by tangerinedream on Feb 14, 2016 8:49:31 GMT
Off the pitch, there's a suggestion that Salford fans sprayed beer on some of the lady Darlo fans and that Jonno verbally abused a lady? Hope this is just bollox, but not great if true. There is a difference between sprayed and spilled as Salford's 2nd goal goes in! As for Jonno, he was responding to the "lady's" other half who had been abusing him (along with the "lady") as soon as they got back into it. Jonno responded by offering him outside after the match. The abuse continued which resulted in the police who had travelled down from Darlo removing the guy for the last few minutes (presume for the guys own safety with Jonno on the hunt) Always two sides and two views to every story I don't understand why the police hadn't already sorted out those individuals who yet again came to the game with the seeming sole intention of hurling vile abuse at our management. Why is it acceptable to get pissed out of your head and subject someone to a tirade of abuse inside a football ground yet would be frowned upon anywhere else? Completely out of order but maybe if they'd been totally blanked that would have got to them even more. Everyone reacts differently I suppose.
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