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Post by Chris P. Bacon on May 2, 2022 22:20:14 GMT
No interview from GB?
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Post by je85 on May 2, 2022 22:26:53 GMT
Good game all in all but not the desired outcome. “Since Christmas Day, only two sides – Exeter and Bristol Rovers – have taken more points than Salford and Mansfield Town” was a stat that made me hopeful. That said, I don’t think today was a game between two even sides, felt again it was GB looking for a solution to get more control into the performance against a side who have a few more gears to go through in comparison to ourselves.
The start was perfect, but from then on out Jordan Turnbull was like a magnet for chaos. Felt he was targeted somewhat today, the decision for the free kick was cynical - but you knew if JT was involved that ref was giving it Mansfield’s way. The hand ball was shocking, I was in line with it and I couldn’t fathom why his hand was up - and couldn’t of come at a worse time.
Personally felt second half the midfield diamond was effective. Love combative work rate second half was something that has been lacking in the last few weeks, Lund’s marathon running with the quality of Watson and Kelly was creating a lot of opportunities to recycle the ball back. BTA was a good outlet for the mid field and ultimately resulted in the time and space to cross for Lund’s goal.
As the game went on again felt GB missed the opportunity to make changes. You could see both sides players getting weary in key areas - Lund and Love (understandably considering he has only been back for the last 3) for example should’ve been pulled sooner. I would’ve got Liam Shep on purely for his delivery and moved Lowe into CDM with Ash Hunter on for Lund. Hunter and BTA could’ve got at Perch who struggled with his head injury, I also thought Oliver Hawkins at CB was garbage.
He was properly poor and I think he should’ve been got at - when you see a GK, the rest of a back four and the midfield bypassing a player you know he is not good enough.
Whilst I am digging out Mansfield players I want to mention Matty Longstaff… Premier League you’re having a laugh. The beach balls in the away end bounced around less than this guy. Unbelievable- and should’ve scored - reckon his brother would’ve hit the post at least.
To add balance, one thing I thought they did brilliantly was force cynical fouls deeper in Salford territory. A lot of sides routinely give away fouls around the halfway line to stop transitions and counters. Mansfield did this around our box, this immediately meant the ball upto Smith was further away from goal. Smith won all but 3 aerial duals today, and I would say 60% of them were deeper and therefore less effective. I think teams may pick up on this going forward.
My last thought from today extends back to period since the wet season over moor lane and we had the Vale and Crawley games postponed. GB has tried plenty with this group, and for me tactically some things have worked in isolation and others have stifled things - especially from an attacking stand point. I thought the diamond today was effective in the second half but relies on Love being hyper aggressive, which with the Refs at this level is risky. As I have mentioned previously when they have worked the ball through the back four and king it has destabilised the shape of opponents that’s created lanes for runs from BTA etc from flick on’s or through balls. GB and the players haven’t been able to knit enough solutions or systems together based on the squad we have currently, that combined with poor in game management is the reason we can’t get into the Mansfield’s, the Vales, the FGRs of this world and win against the better sides in my opinion. I do think there is a playoff side in this squad but it needs it attacking quality to be dragged out of it somehow.
All in all a tough way to end the faint playoff hopes today, but I think Stevenage is a good opportunity to finish strong. And roll into the summer. #COYA
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Post by je85 on May 2, 2022 22:35:05 GMT
Silence has been deafening last few weeks. Nothing post Barrow, Nothing post Oldham when they played well I thought was odd. Considering all of the fall out from that game had been so one dimensional I felt he needed to say something either via the YT Channel or the website in advance from the weekend. No mention of the protest in his programme notes either today - ultimately good PR is needed at every level when you’re a manager, especially of a club with the lens of a docu-drama always being in the background. He seemed to be doing the rounds before kickoff with anyone and everyone before and after his slot on Sky. Seen Birmingham and Salford have tentatively broached the possibility of Rob Edwards at FGR being lured in to take over. When I seen Warburton had left QPR I thought he could be someone GN may look at also, imagine this would be an expensive option.
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Post by alanb on May 3, 2022 10:19:09 GMT
Yeah. Good point. I didn't spot that.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on May 3, 2022 10:40:39 GMT
Just an afterthought. It's quite normal for our goalscorers to be interviewed after the match by one of our media team - and the interview shown on 'Salford Twitter'. So... there's an interview for us to watch with the scorer of our second goal, Matty Lund; but why not an interview with the scorer of our first goal? As I'm sure that we'd all be interested to hear JT's own explanation of exactly what that incident with the hand was all about. They rarely include any contentious issues in player interviews. And they never cover them in the highlights either. I’m just hoping Gary hasn’t had a word and come to some kind of “mutual decision” as he did with Bernard and Jonno.
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Post by je85 on May 3, 2022 12:21:23 GMT
They rarely include any contentious issues in player interviews. And they never cover them in the highlights either. I’m just hoping Gary hasn’t had a word and come to some kind of “mutual decision” as he did with Bernard and Jonno. Micheal Appleton is the latest name being linked with a “potential change at Salford”. Too many murmurs to think somethings not going to be announced in the next week to ten days. For me I just hope this isn’t a distraction from the recruitment required into the first team.
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Post by bronco123 on May 3, 2022 13:36:03 GMT
GB did an interview with BBC Radio Bolton, sorry Manchester, post game. Seemed disappointed but not resigned. Good analysis on BBC RM on what is/has gone wrong too.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on May 3, 2022 13:48:57 GMT
I’m just hoping Gary hasn’t had a word and come to some kind of “mutual decision” as he did with Bernard and Jonno. Micheal Appleton is the latest name being linked with a “potential change at Salford”. Too many murmurs to think somethings not going to be announced in the next week to ten days. For me I just hope this isn’t a distraction from the recruitment required into the first team. GB will probably get sacked. As I said before, it won’t stop me supporting my team. I was here before the Cof92. But I won’t be watching with any real enthusiasm. If we are still persisting with the “promotion or the sack” mantra, then we’re going to go through a manager every season and we’ll be in League 2 forever. Our owners need to grow some boll*x and have the guts to stick with a manager for 2-3 full seasons. The way they are approaching this is costing us more money than if they’d have planned it gradually. Too big a turnover of players and manager each season for anyone to relax and and build up some team spirit. Sack GB and I’ll lose any respect I have left for our owners.
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Post by chipbarm on May 3, 2022 14:09:01 GMT
I'll be mightily pissed off if GB is sacked whilst the biggest problem we have hindering progress is the football genius who calls himself a sporting director and seems untouchable. Get shot of that clown and let the manager live and die by his own decisions and actually give him a few seasons to progress and build. You know like Neville constantly spouts about his beloved United.
Won't happen of course.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on May 3, 2022 14:31:50 GMT
I'll be mightily pissed off if GB is sacked whilst the biggest problem we have hindering progress is the football genius who calls himself a sporting director and seems untouchable. Get shot of that clown and let the manager live and die by his own decisions and actually give him a few seasons to progress and build. You know like Neville constantly spouts about his beloved United. Won't happen of course. Absolutely spot-blo*dy-on! But having heard GN a few weeks ago when interviewed about Man U, he said (amongst other things) that "They MUST employ a Sporting Director." He placed a serious amount of emphasis on this, so it's clearly something he believes in and will be too stubborn to change that view. But then here at Salford and being an owner, he can be hands-on when it comes to squad selection with a friendly Sporting Director who will rubber-stamp anything Gary says. So when it comes to apportioning blame when we don't get promoted, is it Caspar/Neville's fault or is it the manager's? Well since the SD and Neville are joined at the hip and one of them is the owner, he's never going to turn around and accept they got it wrong. We employed Caspar when we were in non-league for god's sake. I can't help think that if the rest of the owners want something different from Gary, Gary keeps talking until the rest of the owners can't be bothered any more and just say, yeah ok Gary, whatever you want to do. In one of the early documentaries GN was ranting from his box about us being poor. I think it was the season B&J won the league . GN said "We let them pick their own player once (Matt Green) and look how that went.". Well who picked the other TEN players Gary? But this is the problem. The managers picked a player.....he didn't work out. It's the managers fault. GN and the ghost pick a player......he doesn't work out....it's the manager's fault for not getting the best out of him. Even the club chairwoman buys into this now, so how can any manager win? Wellens wasn't the right fit for us, but I respect him for telling Caspar he didn't want ANY of the players they offered him and pointing out that he lived or died by his results. Even if we keep GB, the player merry-go-round will start, probably with the same theory that mid-30's ex-league 1 journeymen are the way to top league 2. Let the soap opera begin!
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Post by je85 on May 3, 2022 17:28:12 GMT
Casper is the definition of jobs for the boys. But Salford need a sporting director - their needs to be someone 100% focussed on building out the sporting structure on the recruitment side, loans, the women’s team, youth development, scouting and creating pathways into the first team. That said the final say on the squad should be the managers because he has to put his name to the XI that go out there every Saturday Tuesday.
I think the output of Casper’s coordination of the team behind identifying players, signings and players from the development squad has been slow in comparison to others in the league like Exeter for example - despite the financial muscle the owners keep wanting to flex on wages, bonuses etc.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on May 3, 2022 18:39:42 GMT
Casper is the definition of jobs for the boys. But Salford need a sporting director - their needs to be someone 100% focussed on building out the sporting structure on the recruitment side, loans, the women’s team, youth development, scouting and creating pathways into the first team. That said the final say on the squad should be the managers because he has to put his name to the XI that go out there every Saturday Tuesday. I think the output of Casper’s coordination of the team behind identifying players, signings and players from the development squad has been slow in comparison to others in the league like Exeter for example - despite the financial muscle the owners keep wanting to flex on wages, bonuses etc. Sporting Director sounds ideal for all that in paragraph 1. Just keep him away from the first team. The manager decides who he wants. The scouts do their work and report back on that player. Caspar should be nowhere near it.
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Post by willtm10 on May 4, 2022 12:07:06 GMT
Silence has been deafening last few weeks. Nothing post Barrow, Nothing post Oldham when they played well I thought was odd. Considering all of the fall out from that game had been so one dimensional I felt he needed to say something either via the YT Channel or the website in advance from the weekend. No mention of the protest in his programme notes either today - ultimately good PR is needed at every level when you’re a manager, especially of a club with the lens of a docu-drama always being in the background. He seemed to be doing the rounds before kickoff with anyone and everyone before and after his slot on Sky. Seen Birmingham and Salford have tentatively broached the possibility of Rob Edwards at FGR being lured in to take over. When I seen Warburton had left QPR I thought he could be someone GN may look at also, imagine this would be an expensive option. Barrow: Oldham we were told by the EFL that no post-match media was to be done, that was out of our hands. The protests are not our place as a Club to be discussing, we won and focus shifted onto the Mansfield game, why the need to comment on the situation of another club? Mansfield - he did post-match with Sky and BBC RM, and with the awards we were keen to get everyone into that so hoping to share the BBC and/or Sky interviews, but neither posted them. That's a mis-judgment on our side, but the plan was that Gary would talk about the game at the awards, then mis-communication meant the staff missed it as they were doing post-match analysis. I'm confused by the silence is deafening comment, it's an extremely rare occasion that we have nothing after a game, and if there isn't there's reason behind it that's something out of our control, for example technical issues at Swindon where an SD card corrupted, or at Oldham having to take instruction from the EFL. Hope that clarifies anything.
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Post by je85 on May 4, 2022 16:41:25 GMT
Silence has been deafening last few weeks. Nothing post Barrow, Nothing post Oldham when they played well I thought was odd. Considering all of the fall out from that game had been so one dimensional I felt he needed to say something either via the YT Channel or the website in advance from the weekend. No mention of the protest in his programme notes either today - ultimately good PR is needed at every level when you’re a manager, especially of a club with the lens of a docu-drama always being in the background. He seemed to be doing the rounds before kickoff with anyone and everyone before and after his slot on Sky. Seen Birmingham and Salford have tentatively broached the possibility of Rob Edwards at FGR being lured in to take over. When I seen Warburton had left QPR I thought he could be someone GN may look at also, imagine this would be an expensive option. Barrow: Oldham we were told by the EFL that no post-match media was to be done, that was out of our hands. The protests are not our place as a Club to be discussing, we won and focus shifted onto the Mansfield game, why the need to comment on the situation of another club? Mansfield - he did post-match with Sky and BBC RM, and with the awards we were keen to get everyone into that so hoping to share the BBC and/or Sky interviews, but neither posted them. That's a mis-judgment on our side, but the plan was that Gary would talk about the game at the awards, then mis-communication meant the staff missed it as they were doing post-match analysis. I'm confused by the silence is deafening comment, it's an extremely rare occasion that we have nothing after a game, and if there isn't there's reason behind it that's something out of our control, for example technical issues at Swindon where an SD card corrupted, or at Oldham having to take instruction from the EFL. Hope that clarifies anything. Ok …. I am not asking GB to comment on the Oldham fans protest but the performance of his players. Which he didn’t need to do directly after the game under the EFL instruction, but you had 9 days between games! Think about it chronologically and lack of communication to get the fans up for the last home game of the season, with everything that’s riding on it, knowing teams around us would be playing 48hrs before us was just weird. If you want to see the impact of the silence, look at the comments on this forum in the run up to the game, pessimistic is probably the best way to put it. My point is i think there is more questions than answers around GB and the squad right now.
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