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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Dec 29, 2023 23:01:42 GMT
0-1 I didn't expect to win anyway 0-2 The play on the field is embarassing 0-3 F#&$^&$#!!!!!!! The most demoralizing aspect for me is a distinct lack of belief that things will get better because the C92 will not release recruitment to someone that knows the process. We could change managers 100 times but the quality of the players is lacking. No one could win with this bunch. I also worry that we're looking at another "head coach" appointment because the C92 simply will not admit to themselves they don't know what they are doing. The worse we get, the more they think they should be involved. After all we’ve been through over all these years, all the changes,, the constant is their involvement. Do they just not see it or do they just not care?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 23:02:03 GMT
The only saving grace from tonight is the teams below us lost too. As it is I had a nice evening at home with a glass of wine watching Paul and Bob Go Fishing which from the sounds of it is million times better than what I missed. Our players aren't good enough and it was far too much to expect what is pretty much the "supply teacher" to get them to perform any better than they have been. We need at least 6 players in January or we are doomed. On current form we are the worst team in the league and it shows. Both Tranmere and Grimsby hadn't won away this season till they played us by the way. "As it is I had a nice evening at home with a glass of wine watching Paul and Bob Go Fishing which from the sounds of it is million times better than what I missed." I needed that laugh
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Post by chipbarm on Dec 29, 2023 23:06:00 GMT
The only saving grace from tonight is the teams below us lost too. As it is I had a nice evening at home with a glass of wine watching Paul and Bob Go Fishing which from the sounds of it is million times better than what I missed. Our players aren't good enough and it was far too much to expect what is pretty much the "supply teacher" to get them to perform any better than they have been. We need at least 6 players in January or we are doomed. On current form we are the worst team in the league and it shows. Both Tranmere and Grimsby hadn't won away this season till they played us by the way. "As it is I had a nice evening at home with a glass of wine watching Paul and Bob Go Fishing which from the sounds of it is million times better than what I missed." I needed that laugh Glad I could help 😄
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 23:08:02 GMT
0-1 I didn't expect to win anyway 0-2 The play on the field is embarassing 0-3 F#&$^&$#!!!!!!! The most demoralizing aspect for me is a distinct lack of belief that things will get better because the C92 will not release recruitment to someone that knows the process. We could change managers 100 times but the quality of the players is lacking. No one could win with this bunch. I also worry that we're looking at another "head coach" appointment because the C92 simply will not admit to themselves they don't know what they are doing. The worse we get, the more they think they should be involved. After all we’ve been through over all these years, all the changes,, the constant is their involvement. Do they just not see it or do they just not care? Maybe there's something with being an athlete at the level they all reached that requires an amount of confidence/ego the rest of us can not comprehend. They may not be able to see it because they may not be able to believe they could be the reason for anything failing. If ManU didn't win a game it's because they didn't play enough minutes or take enough shots. If Salford don't win a game it's because they didn't select the players or coach the game. The answer to them may always be someone else because they may believe they are incapable of not being the best at everything they do, especially anything football.
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Dec 30, 2023 8:21:05 GMT
The worse we get, the more they think they should be involved. After all we’ve been through over all these years, all the changes,, the constant is their involvement. Do they just not see it or do they just not care? Maybe there's something with being an athlete at the level they all reached that requires an amount of confidence/ego the rest of us can not comprehend. They may not be able to see it because they may not be able to believe they could be the reason for anything failing. If ManU didn't win a game it's because they didn't play enough minutes or take enough shots. If Salford don't win a game it's because they didn't select the players or coach the game. The answer to them may always be someone else because they may believe they are incapable of not being the best at everything they do, especially anything football. I think you’re right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 9:03:45 GMT
Maybe there's something with being an athlete at the level they all reached that requires an amount of confidence/ego the rest of us can not comprehend. They may not be able to see it because they may not be able to believe they could be the reason for anything failing. If ManU didn't win a game it's because they didn't play enough minutes or take enough shots. If Salford don't win a game it's because they didn't select the players or coach the game. The answer to them may always be someone else because they may believe they are incapable of not being the best at everything they do, especially anything football. I think you’re right. I've said it before but I think it's worth mentioning again... There are a number of differences between us and Wrexham but one of, maybe the most important, is the self awareness of the owners. Wrexham is owned by 2 Hollywood actors, and the egos they must have to do that job, but they both recognize they need help so they've hired the best manager, scouting department, and every football mind they could to run things on the field. They do not interfere. Our owners will simply never think that way. Never
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Post by Chris P. Bacon on Dec 30, 2023 9:52:37 GMT
I've said it before but I think it's worth mentioning again... There are a number of differences between us and Wrexham but one of, maybe the most important, is the self awareness of the owners. Wrexham is owned by 2 Hollywood actors, and the egos they must have to do that job, but they both recognize they need help so they've hired the best manager, scouting department, and every football mind they could to run things on the field. They do not interfere. Our owners will simply never think that way. Never True again. The evidence is now overwhelming, should they choose to look at it.
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Post by tangerinedream on Dec 30, 2023 9:54:03 GMT
Simon Wiles post match ...... You can see what he was trying to do but we just don't have the players to hurt opposition sides. When the chances came (and there weren't too many of them) we just didn't capitalise on them.
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Post by chipbarm on Dec 30, 2023 10:27:18 GMT
We're basically knackered as a L2 team. The only thing that might save us from relegation at the moment is 2 of the 3 teams below us being as bad or worse than we are. We just don't have the players or motivation levels to get out of the mire by our own actions. I honestly can't see where our next win is coming from. Our new manager is going to have to be a miracle worker
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Post by irlamsheightlad on Dec 30, 2023 10:30:47 GMT
I've said it before but I think it's worth mentioning again... There are a number of differences between us and Wrexham but one of, maybe the most important, is the self awareness of the owners. Wrexham is owned by 2 Hollywood actors, and the egos they must have to do that job, but they both recognize they need help so they've hired the best manager, scouting department, and every football mind they could to run things on the field. They do not interfere. Our owners will simply never think that way. Never Hit the nail on the head perfectly.
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Post by chipbarm on Dec 30, 2023 10:31:20 GMT
I've said it before but I think it's worth mentioning again... There are a number of differences between us and Wrexham but one of, maybe the most important, is the self awareness of the owners. Wrexham is owned by 2 Hollywood actors, and the egos they must have to do that job, but they both recognize they need help so they've hired the best manager, scouting department, and every football mind they could to run things on the field. They do not interfere. Our owners will simply never think that way. Never Wrexham's owners know next to nothing about "soccer" so they sensibly got out of the way. Ours do but a decade or so playing elite level football doesn't mean you understand the nuances of actually running a lower league club. As they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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